With Chinook not yet official on the N800 and no specific schedule for my personal, production N810 arrival, I'm covering the Asus Eee microlaptop over on UltraMobileGeek.com. The first post is a video that tests the time from "sealed box" to "surfing the web." If you're curious (and want to see how quick I can void that warranty and hack internal Bluetooth) check it out.
My first impression is that the Eee and N800/N810 may have some market overlap but the users will know right away which they want more.
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You mentioned the other day tha you were charging your N810 via the USB connectors from your iMac. Are you a developer too?
I'm going to be writing some custom apps for the N810 and wanted to know if the SDK that Nokia have released will run on OS X
I am not a developer ... just a blogger ;) I'd be glad to beta test!
hang on. You're giving one away and you don't even get to keep the demo unit you got? Did you buy the prize on or did Nokia donate it. You totally should have swung one for yourself considering the publicity this competition could bring in for them.
Oh no CraigS! I didn't mean to imply that I would be without an N810 - Just that THIS one has to go back and there will likely be a pause before I can get ahold of the commercial release version.
Nokia Marketers do take good care of me and, while they do not sponsor me, they give me a lot of access, information, ideas and feedback. I treasure all of that -- especially the access :D
I've got an Eee and a OS2008 N800 (Soon to have a N810 hopefully) and I find that I'm using the devices in completely different circumstances.
The Eee is working as a really nice household surfing device (I've install Ubuntu on it). My N800 is the perfect form factor for keeping in my shirt pocket and whipping out on the train to work where my Eee would be a little bit too bulky. Both are excellent devices but I doubt there's a huge amount of crossover.
Everyone buy both ;)
An idea I've considered Stephen. If by some luck I have enough funds to purchase both I certainly will. Whether or not I would keep them both would depend on how I ended up using them. See, I can picture myself using both for similar tasks, but I'm not sure which I would use more. We'll see...I may not REALLY need my extra kidney. :-P
Please test out the USB functionlity with other devices (external HD, external Flash units, and a USB to Ethernet (RJ45) cable, (yes you can buy this) as it would be nice to know that there was an ability to use internet where there is no wireless available?
Thank-you.
Belkin makes a USB to ethernet thingy (both gigabit, and slower, 2 different devices).
For when you don't have wireless access.
PS - the Eee PC and the N8xx (the version with no GPS as most of us who use such a device already know our way to work, to home, to the store, to the bar, to the coffee shop, etc - oh with CD card slot, and a bit lower price due to no GPS IP overhead), well I read were someone was using both an Eee PC and a N800 and found that both overlap nicely and you can use one where you can't use the other. So - really if you are going to carry an Eee PC, it is not much harder to have an Nxx in your pocket at the same time (the Eee PC has only 2.5 hours of battery life) and the keyboard is a bit easier to use on the Eee PC as well.
So - hmmm, COULD you test out how both the Eee PC and the Nxx work together and are able to synch up what is needed to synch up.
Test out miro on the Eee PC, and see if there is away to use miro to make videos usable on the N8xx. Of course if both used Thunderbird and both would use this below, then moving between them would be nice and easy... of course then we would need the USB port on the N8xx to be able to connect to the Eee PC for file synch and transfer needs (see:
http://www.linux.com/articles/53463?tid=130
" Turn Thunderbird into a collaboration tool
By default, Thunderbird doesn't have a calendar, and it lacks the ability to synchronise data between multiple clients. However, the Calendar plugin combined with the SyncKolab extension can fill the void. You also need an IMAP account, which SyncKolab uses to synchronise the contacts and calendar data. You can either use a local Kolab server or an IMAP email account; the latter option is probably easier.
Start with downloading and installing the Calendar and SyncKolab plugins, then create two folders, Contacts and Calendar, on your IMAP server. To configure SyncKolab's preferences, choose Tools -> Extensions and double-click on SyncKolab. In the Contacts tab, select the address book you want to synchronise, select your IMAP email account, and choose the Contacts folder. If you leave the Save to Imap folder check box unticked, SyncKolab will not upload changes in your calendar and address book, but download any changes from the IMAP account. Finally, use the Sync Contacts and Sync Calendar check boxes to select what data you want to synchronise. In the Calendar tab, select what calendar you want to sync and select the Calendar folder on your IMAP email account. Click OK to save the settings and close the window. Next, you have to add the SyncKolab button to Thunderbird's toolbar. Right-click somewhere on Thunderbird's toolbar and select Customize. Drag the SyncKolab button onto the toolbar and press Done. To start synchronisation, click on the SyncKolab button".
oh - test the N810 with a USB keyboard as well...
AND note: that if you had an Eee PC and a N8xx (and N800 with a N810 Keyboard, with no GPS and "that cost"), then you would NOT need, due to the camera in the N8xx, you would not need a camera in the Eee PC, and so could buy the cheaper Eee PC model (choice). So with an N8xx at current Buy.com price for the N800 at $228.99, if you could get one with the N810 keyboard upgrade... then, you add on the base Eee PC 2G Surf Eee 700 PC - where you could upgrade the RAM and maybe with a mini PCIe flash upgrade the flash storage and LOAD Ubuntu on that and dual boot between the native Eee PC OS that comes with the unit on the 2GB Motherboard Flash, and the Ubuntu on the miniPCIe, well (since no Eee PC camera, as it is on the N8xx, then you don't need an Eee PC camera at all). Here is the math.
$228.99 (Nxx)
+ $299.99 (Eee PC 2G Surf, Eee 700)
= $528.98
Ram upgrade to 1GB = _____?
mini PCIe flash 8GB = _____?
You are mobile with 2 devices that might work nicely as a pair (of course then you add the N95...and what do you have)!
The only way to top the above scenerio is to replace the Eee PC, but only if Quanta comes out with a OLPC commercial version that is a mirror image of the Eee PC, but th Quanta version (annouced but no details yet) has the OLPC long battery life, the OLPC dual mode LCD with day or sunlight usable screen, and has the "mesh networking" (note the Nokia Nxx with the N810 keyboard and no GPS SHOULD HAVE MESH NETWORKING TOO)...,
Now- that would the killer mobile combo, and if all used 15 min rechargable AAA batteries, OR all used the same exact recharge devices (one set of wires to keep to recharge), Hmmm???
If the N95 did Mesh Networking, that could be added to the kit.
Forumer is giving away a Nokia N810, info here http://fhq.forumer.com/showthread.php?t=72677
Thanks for this. I've been having a running conversation with a friend of mine over the differences and benefits of the N810 and the Eee. More fuel for the fire (plus he's a pretty hardcore hardware hacker so I'm sure he'll love to see a bluetooth hack on the Eee)
Have you tested Canola on the Nokia N810 yet?
do you have tmobile?
how does the N810 bluetooth tether with your phone?
Is there a way to toggle the back light on via short cut?
And one more question: can you put two memory cards in it? Like you can with the N800?
- Scott Lind.
I just got n810 with the hope of connecting with my iMacs (G4/G5). iSync does not detect it:(
There is no calendar (I like to have a Calendar Program as in PDAs).
I could not figure out the handwriting:(
There is no word/powerpoint programs on this n810, for editing purposes.
The PDF reader is very primitive, when compared to Adobe.
Will someone address these isssues for me?
Thanks
U.S.
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