The results from my first poll are in. Thanks to everyone who voted. The question was: What is the most wanted (missing) N810 feature, and the options and results are:USB OnTheGo | 39 (8%) |
FM Tuner | 32 (7%) |
Video Out | 51 (11%) |
Scroll Wheel | 47 (10%) |
Full sized SD slots | 100 (22%) |
WiMAX | 67 (15%) |
SIM slot (cell phone) | 101 (23%) |
It looks like GSM radios edged out over my favorite (Full SD card slots) by only one vote. WiMAX trailed in at number 3. I locked this so only one option was available to each voter so there is demand for each one of these options.
I am not certain if my last option meant to include data access as well thus taking votes from WiMAX. I'll create a simple poll this time. I talk at length as to why the N800 (and now N810) are better without an integrated cell phone. It's too big to be a phone. It would need to be banded internationally or have region-specific models. It would raise the cost and lower battery life. Even so, there is demand for this feature within the tablets. My vote, obviously, is "no." What's your vote? Should Nokia offer "phone" and "non-phone" models? Look for the poll in the right navigation bar on tabletblog.com.
Speaking of polls, there's a great one on InternetTabletTalk as a follow-up to the podcast. Read the post, see the votes, check the comments, and read Jonathan's take on if users are "always connected" or "connected on demand."
10 comments:
I really don't think that people understand fundamentally what WiMAX implies. It implies the reach of the cellular network, only with high-speed internet connectivity.
With Skype and Gizmo being a staple of the N810 software, it doesn't take much foresight to see that you'd be able to use your unit exactly like a phone, without 'minutes', 'data plans', 'internationalization', 'lock-in', etc. You would even likely be able to use your at home service as your mobile service which would further reduce costs.
It simplifies construction (lower cost), increases reach (enhanced functionality), and simplifies billing (one bill for internet/phone/radio/etc).
As far as I can tell, WiMAX support would be a tremendous boon, not a bust.
}:^)~
YARR!!
Capt'n Corrupt
I agree with what Capt'n Corrupt said, although it would be nice to have a phone inplentation instead of using WiMAX. Again, this is just an opinion.
On the side of reccomendation we are talking about right now, from my sources, Nokia gave us the tablet and tell them what to improve on right?? I was kinda thinking of replaceing the D-Pad with a scroll ball..
Now.. I know alot of people are going to disagree with me, thats just fine, I just want to express my views. The reason for this is that its an all around key, no need to constantly click after click on something. The HW keyboard is still nice, only thing that I see is an issue is that the key are a little too cluttered to each other. I wont know if it will be perfect or not without testing one of it out myself.
I hope to see that they keep keep with the SD or SDHC card formats, they were pretty nice and affordable on the 800, why not on the N810? I also hope that they have 2 slots for memory expansion.
Now.. I'm pretty sure that this wont happen but I would like to see 2 cameras on the tablet.. One on the front and on the back would be nice. I'm not really the type of person that would buy a cellular phone just for the camera, hell, I'm not even a cell person myself.
Overall, I just hope that they still take consideration into what, the people, of the tablets have to say.
We will not have WiMAX where I am based from, for many many years to come. AND in fact in the mountains where we travel too often, well, you can't get any good cell phone access as well.
Why Nokia ignors the fact that those that travel, will experience places that have only an ethernet RJ-45 connection... AND that a user MUST use this to stay in touch with work, family, or friends, ...as you do have to connect to the internet by any means when you have to... -but the fact that you can't connect from anywhere, with either the N800 or the N810... IS a BIG problem, and shows that Nokia finds it easy to ignor the reality of such mobile use is a problem for their sales efforts. Nokia needs to plan 1st for a device to be able to connect from anywhere by any means. Maybe they are thinking too much like a cell phone company where everyone lives in a city, and does not ever travel from there into mountains (radio and cell have problems in mountains with connection)?
Where is SD card slot (again why they did away with it, I am lost to explain), I liked the N800 Radio too, I don't need GPS at all BUT do want the keyboard that the N810 has (so don't need to pay the premium dollar for some feature I am never going to use), AAA 15 minute recharge batteries is needed for not only N810 and cell phones, but for all mobile devices to avoid the need for all the chargers, the wires, the different batteries, heck you need to carry 15 lbs of stuff just to keep your mobile stuff charged up all the time. One system is worth a thousand words, and that battery system is the 15 minute AAA rechargeable battery system, JAVA is needed on all devices, bigger screen for IMAP email use (is a must), IMAP client with Thunderbird feature as follows would be really nice see:
http://www.linux.com/articles/53463
" Turn Thunderbird into a collaboration tool
By default, Thunderbird doesn't have a calendar, and it lacks the ability to synchronise data between multiple clients. However, the Calendar plugin combined with the SyncKolab extension can fill the void. You also need an IMAP account, which SyncKolab uses to synchronise the contacts and calendar data. You can either use a local Kolab server or an IMAP email account; the latter option is probably easier".
Also - USB being able to use USB Keyboard, USB external HD, or other USB Flash devices, would be nice.
Nokia - it would be nice to have a full size keyboard (bluetooth) as part of the purchase of the N810 or N800... why not, the Nokia one is 3 times the cost of 3rd party ones (and how much does it cost to make these, $2.00 in china)?
Let us look at a sample buyer mind set in the case of a buyer who knows nothing about device. Each bullet on a feature list has to click YES in this buyers mind to have an affect... where that affect is that the buyer will end up paying the high price for any device (when compared to the full features that are provided by their mobile laptop, and this is what is causing the Eee PC to receive such intense attention, and where Microsoft has discounted their OEM OS price by 1/3rd, to make it able to run on the Eee PC, in order to compete with the LINUX OS that will be installed on the Eee PC).
I like the N810, but will not get it as I am not going to pay for the GPS that I will never use. And all my cameras have SD cards that they use. I refuse to carry another cable (to lose in a bag with all those other cables) around to connect a camera to the N810 or N800. Where is my SD card slot for the N810?
Too bad, with the N810, I would like to play with the keyboard, and when Maemo.org apps mature into the device, I like those too. But, don't have the time to be disappointed by Nokia's not hitting all the right buttons on this one, so I will wait until version 4 or version 5 to come out before I jump into the use (maybe, depends on how sensible that the device becomes for those who really travel and that travel takes you around the world to places where you need internet, even ethernet to work).
I have emailed my comments to Nokia, and I sent them a long list of complaints about the N800 that it seems that they ignored with the N810 (typical of engineers who are stuck on what they want and don't listen to consumers).
In theory, I agree that including the radio (WiMax, GSM, whatever...) would limit Nokia's ability to deply this thing internationally. Look at how much trouble it has been for Apple to deploy the iPhone outside the US, as opposed to the iPod touch (and they did not even get the 3G going). Still, I think it would be far more useful with some form of widely-available data connection, and I think the popularity of the iPhone demonstrates that.
On the other hand, even though it does have Skype and the rest, I do not buy the idea of the N8x0 being useful as a phone -- it is just too big to carry around on a contact basis, at least for most of us. I hear people complain that the size is one of the biggest drawbacks to the iPhone, and the N810 is significantly larger still.
Jack
I should have stated Standardized Mobile Wireless Data rather than WiMAX specifically. My mistake.
It's likely that standardize mobile wireless data will be available in the future, and when that happens, I hope the Tablet supports this feature.
}:^)~
YARR!
Capt'n Corrupt
Cell radio? Oh come on. I don't want the cost driven up even more for the privilege of holding what amounts to a brick to the side of my head... and I sure as hell won't be sporting the 'I'm important' BT headset cyborg look.
I love the N800 and I know I'll love the N810 and having a gsm sim card slot would be the perfect addition to the tablet. The HTC tilt has a sim card slot to take advantage of either the edge or the 3g signal that we get get here in the states which would really lead to always on internet connectivity. For those customers who use cdma nokia should implement a broadband card slot or atleast a usb slot for evdo I see that they have alot of usb based mobile broadband cards that could take advantage of that. The only disadvantage to that is a clunky look but hey it will be always connected.
I'd LOVE to have a SIM slot in my Nokia tablet. Not for phone use though, just for data, since there never seem to be accessible WiFi access points where I go.
I've got the spare SIM card ready to go, just need a socket for it. :) HTC does this with the Advantage -- seems baffling why Nokia, a cell phone company, won't add it.
"Should the Internet Tablets be Mobile Phones?"
Nice pollster style question!
Are we learning from Frank Lutz?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4
If you asked "should the NIT be an alarm clock?", the response would also be negative, even though it has an alarm clock function built in.
NIT's could be mobile phones in addition to GPS devices, alarm clocks, PIM's etc. Let users decide how they want to use them.
But it's too late now. The Iphone is here and WiMAX in the next NIT will obviate the need for a SIM slot, if the WiMAX implementation isn't constrained in some ridiculous way.
What I'm really concerned about is the OTG visibility here. Most of the people don't even know what otg means. Otg is the hability for n810 to become usb host, which means we can attach a usb memory stick to it (as far as it draws less then 100mA power).
It's not the easy to implement nor that simple to make it happen really stable.
It took me months and months of studying, implementing, testing. But now, n810 is the 1st full otg device in the world. But USB-IF didn't even certified micro usb connectors yet which means we barely have micro-b cables in the market, I think on the time of this writing the only micro cables ever made are coming on n810 sales package. And those are all micro-b cables.
Whenever we have otg cables on market things will be a lot easier.
For those who wanna try, I can teach you how to make a micro-A cable out of a micro-B cable and then you can play attaching usb sticks to n810.
BEWARE:
the whitelisted usb devices on n810 are n810 itself, n800 and 770. Which these are the only 100% sure they'll work because we really tested them on otg sessions.
Any other usb mass storage device drawing less then 100mA will work also. I already tried with my 320gb external usb harddrive and it's working.
In any case, please try out usb otg.
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