Tell me something. What are two things you love about the N810 and two things you'd change about it?
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Friday, January 25, 2008
N810: Now in YOUR pocket.
Tell me something. What are two things you love about the N810 and two things you'd change about it?
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Love the build quality and keyboard. I'd make a more sturdy kickstand and louder speakers.
hey Daniel, some of us didn't get the n810 yet (discount program in USA), you should wait a little more so we can give you our oppinion ;)
Got mine thru buy.com for $399 last week. Initial impressions:
Likes: connectivity options, screen is superb (i thought my psp was one of the best i've ever used, but this is just...wow)
Dislikes:Inability to charge thru USB, mini-USB format
Love: the design and the keyboard
Hate: the design of the pouch and the fact that it needs miniSD, which my N800 only takes with an adapter (fiddling with SD adapters sucks)
Love the screen and form-factor. I hate the micro-SD and the poor implementation of the GPS - lack of GPS integration across applications, no full GPS software package by default, and the loooong fix times.
I love my n810 and use it constantly at home on the recliner and take it with me during the week. Still getting use to it but would have liked the camera to function better for still shots. Great interface for the device! How about a scroll wheel on the right for paging up/down? Still have not figured out how to highlight and copy selected text in browser without shifting the display.
Love: QWERTY keyboard, Chinook/OS2008 (bugs and all)
Would change: map/navigation software, replace miniSD slot & built-in flash with two microSD slots.
As someone upgrading from a 770
Like:
that they added a keyboard
that it's higher spec/faster
Not so much:
GPS has never worked for me - not once
Camera is all but useless
...and unfortunately those were the two things I upgraded for - and they also happen to be the things you can't check in the shop :)
(no camera-enabled app installed by default; and it's not like they're going to let you take it outside..)
Oh well, never mind at least it's higher spec, still very happy with it overall.
Love:
It is always there, ready to read or post or listen or map for hours on a single charge.
It does 99% of the things I would do on my laptop including YouTubes and podcasts/internet radio. (Windows speech codecs aren't supported but used by a few stations).
Change:
The ambient light sensor position
The USB port would not be covered by the stand (and could be combined with a charger, though I don't know if that would work well with the host mode switch).
I've only had it for 24 hours but I love the daylight viewable screen and built in gps (when it works). I'm less enthused about the mini-USB (it's hardly more mini but now the N810 needs a unique cable) and the single microSD (yet another max capacity memory card format to buy.)
Not sure how useful the keyboard is going to be as it doesn't seem any easier to type than using the on screen thumb keyboard. I would have left the same hardware keys on the face of the N810 as the N800, which would have allowed the keyboard to be a bit bigger/have more keys and more closed keyboard full screen operation. I hope the gps starts to work better with a software update (or some learning on my part).
Two things that I think everyone can pretty easily agree on is a higher quality camera (with better implementation) and faster locking on GPS. The camera is pretty terrible quality. Somehow I still haven't been able to figure out how to video chat with Skype or Gizmo yet, but I don't think it would be all that enjoyable of an experience.
The GPS is great once it gets locked but it generally takes 5 mins of sitting still outside for it to lock on.
One last thing is that I wish it didn't seem like you are going to break the N810 every time you put it in or take it out of the car mount. I've only put it in once to test the fit and I feel like I'm going to scratch the whole thing to hell. I'm thinking about doing some modding which would probably involve removing the top part of it so I can slip it in without having to bend plastic and being afraid of scratching/damaging it. I might secure it in place with a rubber band.
I love the design/build quality/form factor and the open source base system. I hate the closed software parts (DSP, UI, daemons) because I can't fiddle with them. I hate that we can't use the PowerVR MBX and I wished there were two microSD slots instead of the eMMC/miniSD combination.
Love:
Display, Keyboard, Design, Kernel (not the particular one, but that it is Linux).
Hate:
Missing PowerVR drivers (even if they can not accelerate the full LCD, Nokia should really pay the few bucks to get them) and the camera that is useless for anything serious.
Doesn't like:
- pouch,
- average battery life (but I'm used to my old Palm Vx 2-3 weeks of regular use between charges).
Note for people with GPS problems :
GPS seems to get better if you give it the time to download geodesics from enough satellites. In my case each time I let the N810 stand still in an open area I get shorter sync delays. Now it's around 1 minute (third time doing this) down from 10 on the first try.
In:
- Very nice design
- Several options for VoIP out of the box
Out:
- Lack of "thumb-oriented" controls (scrolling, general navigation, etc.)
- Micro-USB / no way to charge or use external USB devices with standard cables. The Noma Pocket Charger RX4 helps with the charging problems.
Like: keyboard and connectivity options.
Hate: camera less useful for still photos because it faces same direction as screen and inability to charge via USB.
I love the size and battery life. I wish the GPS was better integrated and that OS2008 was not only fully Open Source but also planned in the community.
Hmm. What do I love? The keyboard is a given and the smaller form factor are the two greatest features.
The bad, I must say lack to dual sd/mini sd/micro sd card slots. Whatever it may be, I wish Nokia had included dual sd slots like nthe N800.
Pro:
- display
- linux
- design
Con:
- keyboard: displaced because of d-pad
- keyboard is flat, so you type very often 2 keys at once (keyboard from a Nokia E61 is A LOT better!)
- d-pad should be next to the display, so I don't need to slide the keyboard if I only need the d-pad
- metal is slippery and vulnerable to scratches (a rubbery backside would help a lot)
- slide out mechanism feels a bit waggly
I love my N810. My favorite things -- the browser renders almost everything properly and the screen. What don't I like? I think the touchscreen leaves a lot to be desired. Some browser pages scroll with finger drag, some don't. Some on-screen key presses generate one letter, some generate two. Spend ten minutes with an iPhone (yes, I said it) and you realize how much better it could be. The other thing: shouldn't it come with more memory? I mean memory is pretty cheap these days.
Likes: Overall concept & design, OS2008
Dislikes: D-Pad on keyboard, slow GPS lock
Info for the USB complains: MicroUSB is the FUTURE :-) Will allow for painless USB OTG. Don't worry, it's not that practical right now, but won't be a problem in a few months when cables and adapters become more widespread.
To back up with tom2 said you can buy micro USB cables to allow USB OTG. I just connected mine to a 250 GB hard drive and was playing MP3's off of it. This is the future. If the N810 had video out this device would border on game changing in what we think a portable computer is.
I don't know if I need two SD card slots, but if Nokia was trying to save space they should have just used micro SD. mini SD is dead. I'm sure micro SD will pick up in capacity once more device are SDHC compatible in the micro SD size. Since it's mostly a phone format there are very few phones that need the space the current micro SD's provide.
Love the design (global look and feel, keyboard,..) and extreme portability (inside, outside, connected, offline, ...)
Dislike GPS(long fix, no default soft), and not simply usable camera (No Skype support, poor quality, no recording)
More first impressions on my blog
Love the sliding keyboard and the transflective screen (a must for in-car use for GPS or as a media player).
Please bring back the full-size SD card slot (I'd be willing to sacrifice a little size for even one full-size slot) and speed up the painfully slow GPS acquisition times.
Don't need the GPS,
Do need SD (not the mini version)
USB on the go, need cable included
Where is the radio from N800?
Battery (hate proprietary batteries for all devices being "different", wish that these companies would standardize on AA or AAA 15 minute rechargable battery for all devices then my life would be much better.
1 battery with 1 recharge system, to fit all devices, perfect.
Nokia should license some of the OLPC XO technology from the woman who was the OLPC CTO, that has now started a company to license those wonderful tech features.
dual mode LCD (a bit larger LCD)
sunlight viewable LCD (low battery use)
battery ($10 to replace)
Mesh Networking
SD card (not mini)
Why is Nokia looking to buy Trolltech?
Likes- Transflective display, hw keyboard, build quality,
Dislikes- Camera(just crappy), mini-sd(only a memory stick could be worse.) Busybox shell(total b.s. If they just put bash on it instead, I wouldn't need scratchbox to build apps for it.)
If I was to change the design I'd-
1. remove the camera altogether
2. remove the 2gb onboard flash and the mini-sd and replace with 2 micro-sd slots.
3. a graphics driver that actually uses the acceleration available on the chip would be cool.
I love:
- the keyboard
- Jingle and SIP calls
- the internet browser
- Scummvm :)
I hate:
- The GSM which takes age to lock (when it locks)
- The contacts list takes aaaaaaaaage to load
- The e-mail client
I'd like to have:
- softwares to use my N810 as a PDA: calendar (Dates could be great) and better gestion of contacts
- integrated synchronization with my GNOME desktop (Conduit is probably the best candidate for that)
- IPv6 support
lovw skype
wish skyp client supported skypcasts
Like
1. GPS - when you know it's limitations on new site startup it's great.
2. OTG, for a $2.50 adapter all my thumb drives work
Dislike/needs changing
1. No pen in stylus
2. No teleport feature
I like:
- the keyboard (makes messaging so much easier)
- the browser
I dislike:
- responsiveness (it should be a lot more responsive eg. when unlocking the keys and when starting the browser, for example)
- the default map software
I like:
Skype
I dislike:
Skype Client does not support Skypecasts. I have alot of friends on skype and we often skypcast. Can't join with the Nokia Skype Client.
like: all except above.
dislike: gps slow, no A2DP for BT stereo sound quality, poor camera.
Brazil
likes
-built in keyboard
-The available programs (namely rdesktop, when it works)
-SIP support
things I wish it had:
-ability to print to networked printers (I really really wish it had this)
-video out, so I could watch movies and sideshows on a tv
-faster processor, so it could handle full screen video better
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