tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post8085546125386544421..comments2008-05-12T11:11:34.842-07:00Comments on TabletBlog.com by ThoughtFix: Nokia Internet Tablets: "Now what?"thoughtfixhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09805747981436810611noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-31408356751645070712008-05-12T11:11:00.000-07:002008-05-12T11:11:00.000-07:002008-05-12T11:11:00.000-07:00clmanchester:Skype works great with maemo, especia...clmanchester:Skype works great with maemo, especially in the latest (Chinook) release where they improved the voice quality.It's voice only though, if you want video, you need to use (pre-installed) GTalk client. The builtin device camera is not very good (low resolution and colors could be better), but adequate.As for Basic, AFAIK that's not available for the devices. I would recommend using Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-19580025663136139022008-04-23T13:54:00.000-07:002008-04-23T13:54:00.000-07:002008-04-23T13:54:00.000-07:00Great job.And now I feel even more forgotten by No...Great job.And now I feel even more forgotten by Nokia. Again (E90).I just hope, that there are clever people (not from Nokia) doing my N800 OS2008 software more user friendly.peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-61811356446935286912008-04-12T17:04:00.000-07:002008-04-12T17:04:00.000-07:002008-04-12T17:04:00.000-07:00I am actually considering this device because of t...I am actually considering this device because of the VOIP .. Skype in particular. I teach online courses (programming) on top of my day job as a Computer Science teacher. I am required to talk to my students through SKYPE for the online course but I'm finding it hard to have a life because I'm tied to my laptop during my "office hours", even if no students contact me during those hours. If I CLManchesterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10090709882625582165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-24932187397204509402008-04-11T00:20:00.000-07:002008-04-11T00:20:00.000-07:002008-04-11T00:20:00.000-07:00I think you're absolutely right...I've been using ...I think you're absolutely right...I've been using the Nokia tablets since the 7710 (Hildon on Symbian S90) and although the interface has improved, it is not yet ready fr prime time!Personally, I prefer browsing the web on my iPhone - I only use the N810 when I want Flash or cut & paste support on the go (like blogging).tnkgrlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07291778151238593390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-58321390281184816932008-04-10T14:10:00.000-07:002008-04-10T14:10:00.000-07:002008-04-10T14:10:00.000-07:00Just today I am trying to get my N810 to sync with...Just today I am trying to get my N810 to sync with my online calendars... Now there is software out there that does this, but it's not in any of the repositories that I have, and when I download and try to install the software it tells me that I am missing some files. Ok. Now I know that UNIX is more of a lets get our fingers dirty and hack up some stuff to make it do what I want, but that's Kurthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13756168037396307558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-90712731055384803162008-04-08T20:47:00.000-07:002008-04-08T20:47:00.000-07:002008-04-08T20:47:00.000-07:00I agree with everything ThoughtFix said in this po...I agree with everything ThoughtFix said in this post. I bought an N800 for my wife. She loves using it as a media player and game console, especially being able to share media with her friends. However, the out of the box experience was ridiculous. Nothing that she wanted to use worked except the web browser. She gave me the device back and asked me to fix it! It took about about three days of myAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-44339677105841598852008-04-08T04:32:00.000-07:002008-04-08T04:32:00.000-07:002008-04-08T04:32:00.000-07:00A sane way of updating software would be nice. No ...A sane way of updating software would be nice. No other device I own requires me to specifically go and check for updates, they all do it themselves.A way to "undo" an update would be good too. I just upgraded Canola and it's not playing OGG files now. I haven't the time or inclination to really work out why, I'd prefer to just go "oops... Undo" and use the version I was running before Jameshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07131489018085848559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-5544466234700501362008-04-07T10:00:00.000-07:002008-04-07T10:00:00.000-07:002008-04-07T10:00:00.000-07:00I'll echo the comment above about the lack of a *g...I'll echo the comment above about the lack of a *good* PIM suite. I'm still carrying around my Palm T3 as the various PIMs are just not there yet. I do like the UI as I'm a heavy multitasker and it works well for that. However, adding a default home page launcher applet could help sell the device. (It would also be nice if the RSS home page applet was more configurable for its spacing and Erikhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09770028440587495325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-76808563805522113562008-04-07T09:43:00.000-07:002008-04-07T09:43:00.000-07:002008-04-07T09:43:00.000-07:00Since noone else commented, I just wanted to add t...Since noone else commented, I just wanted to add two things:1. I know I made a typo: where it says 'accept' it should be 'except'. English isn't my native language...2. I own a Nokia N800. When the N810 came out I didn't feel the need to buy it since the only difference was the keyboard and the GPS-receiver. I think the on-screen thumb keyboard types about as fast as a regular keyboard on a Daanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09655804842504661595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-85489950064969643882008-04-06T19:13:00.000-07:002008-04-06T19:13:00.000-07:002008-04-06T19:13:00.000-07:00I agree, but you forgot about the part where Joe C...I agree, but you forgot about the part where Joe Consumer tried to open this post trough the RSS-reader to comment on this post, but had to open the browser and go to tabletblog.com manually because the RSS-reader froze once again and could not be terminated because there is no simple way to directly terminate a frozen application. Accept for the fact that my name isn't Joe Consumer this is a Daanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09655804842504661595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-32011470100747408352008-04-06T05:50:00.000-07:002008-04-06T05:50:00.000-07:002008-04-06T05:50:00.000-07:00I totally agree with you.I just think that a there...I totally agree with you.I just think that a there are a few changes that could make the NIT a normal consumer device:- faster web app (loading) - faster cpu?- easier way too see/launch apps (iphone is a click away, i wont' be too happy to clone that UI, but something equivalent will greatly help)- some cooool applications already "bundled" like "Numpty Physics" "mplayer" "mytube"All this resume Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-9026544082902665102008-04-05T21:43:00.000-07:002008-04-05T21:43:00.000-07:002008-04-05T21:43:00.000-07:00That's it, you said it all.I'd just add a good PIM...That's it, you said it all.I'd just add a good PIM suite. Every Palm ex-user misses it. It's really a shame the lack of a good one.Salomão Cohenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17093201093103043360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-72504036088680045822008-04-05T19:25:00.000-07:002008-04-05T19:25:00.000-07:002008-04-05T19:25:00.000-07:00I think that the main problems are:1. No built-in ...I think that the main problems are:1. No built-in HSDPA2. Crappy video codecs and resolutions support (full resolution DivX, H264, Mpeg2, smooth online flash video streaming...)3. Worse storage with N810 then N800 and no hard drive storage option.4. No video-recording5. Still too much useless plastic space around the screen.6. Rather remove the Thumb keyboard (on-screen keyboard is about just as Charbaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11473949989857148265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-14201026058978133012008-04-05T15:57:00.000-07:002008-04-05T15:57:00.000-07:002008-04-05T15:57:00.000-07:00Well said. And about time! Of course the other e...Well said. And about time! Of course the other equally ignored potential for the tablets/mids/secondary device space is the enterprise. Here we have folks clamoring for a larger screen portable device hmmm...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-51535309526243661142008-04-05T10:52:00.000-07:002008-04-05T10:52:00.000-07:002008-04-05T10:52:00.000-07:00Great post. Glad someone else is saying this.The h...Great post. Glad someone else is saying this.The hard part will be for Maemo and Nokia to agree on how best to keep developers interested while cleaning up the user experience for better consumer adoption. I'd love to sit in on that meeting personally. It would be a great mind-melding session I am sure.Something that I wish could happen (but we are too far along in timelines mostl likey for it) Antoinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00371682086103475065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-62799066132677755972008-04-05T10:48:00.000-07:002008-04-05T10:48:00.000-07:002008-04-05T10:48:00.000-07:00For the moment the N800/810 is like democracy: it'...For the moment the N800/810 is like democracy: it's the worst form factor and system solution except for all the others. I use it daily A LOT and mostly at home and in home office: checking/writing e-mail, Twitter, blogs, news, YouTube, playing back podcasts... If and when work takes me back on the road the iPhone may seduce me, and I don't see Nokia developing the IT platform with winning energyHalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08814217088173209717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-22972400297160837032008-04-05T10:40:00.000-07:002008-04-05T10:40:00.000-07:002008-04-05T10:40:00.000-07:00Great post, Thoughtfix. You've got your finger on...Great post, Thoughtfix. You've got your finger on the pulse of the problem with the tablets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-34407636442256447612008-04-05T09:15:00.000-07:002008-04-05T09:15:00.000-07:002008-04-05T09:15:00.000-07:00I totally agreeI totally agreeManuwww.tableteros.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-68451874624028287402008-04-05T08:52:00.000-07:002008-04-05T08:52:00.000-07:002008-04-05T08:52:00.000-07:00@Kevin T. Neely:I believe canola is the perfect ex...@Kevin T. Neely:I believe canola is the perfect example of how easily people mix up "pretty" and "easy to use". Its UI is not intuitive! Some weeks ago, I recommended it to a friend of mine who is a real non-geek. He wants things to work. while he was impressed by the eye candy, his photos didnt show up. He looked for something like "file:open", because thats what he expects in software. I let ossi1967http://oskar.twoday.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-55945694773424472092008-04-05T06:43:00.000-07:002008-04-05T06:43:00.000-07:002008-04-05T06:43:00.000-07:00I've got both an N800 and an N810 and for me it al...I've got both an N800 and an N810 and for me it all boils down to speed: the whole platform is so underpowered. Browsing is slow, checking for updates (in red pill mode which you need for many beta apps) is slow, trying to play a video that works flawlessly on my son's PSP is a slideshow, etc. It's still quite useful but for the average consumer, I just don't think they have the patience.tjbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-71892092537146457102008-04-05T06:42:00.000-07:002008-04-05T06:42:00.000-07:002008-04-05T06:42:00.000-07:00I am kind of surprised you did not mention Canola ...I am kind of surprised you did not mention Canola in this post. The "important apps" you identified are all communication-centric. Important, no doubt, but to me, and the few other tablet owners I know, the multimedia aspects are equally important.Canola brings all the media together in one, easy-to-use and intuitive interface. Of course, it still falls into the named problem of "what does theKevin T. Neelyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16019603806241071193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-68733210394595663142008-04-05T05:53:00.000-07:002008-04-05T05:53:00.000-07:002008-04-05T05:53:00.000-07:00Greetings ThoughtFix:I enjoy using my N800.But to ...Greetings ThoughtFix:I enjoy using my N800.But to get the average joe to use this Internet Tablet Nokia has to:-bumpup the processor speed to 900mhz or 1ghz.-change the OS2008 to Windows XP easy mode.- improve the user interface.Regards RobertRobMtl007http://www.blogger.com/profile/14459706796558087098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-2268498877755488342008-04-05T03:45:00.000-07:002008-04-05T03:45:00.000-07:002008-04-05T03:45:00.000-07:00I almost agree - except for 2 points:In my experie...I almost agree - except for 2 points:In my experience, the average consumer is much more forgiving than the NIT-crowd is. Quite a few pppl I know bought the N800 after they saw my 770... I never recommended it, they just did. Those are people who have troubles using their Windows PCs, but they're content with the tablets. I don't know if they go "wow" each time they use them, but whatever bugs meossi1967http://oskar.twoday.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-71145970338406962212008-04-04T23:54:00.000-07:002008-04-04T23:54:00.000-07:002008-04-04T23:54:00.000-07:00Agree on almost everything you said. Nokia is the ...Agree on almost everything you said. Nokia is the biggest mobile company and it really is a small thing for them to make a better ui. The problem is that the maemo team is so very small. look at the different phone models that are being churned out......I think the phone market is saturated. people want more of portable computers which can call phones rather than the other way round. Nokia just sachinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03713974229067399468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20105749.post-72657970453111736222008-04-04T23:25:00.000-07:002008-04-04T23:25:00.000-07:002008-04-04T23:25:00.000-07:00thoughtfix, your best post, yet. Well thought out...thoughtfix, your best post, yet. Well thought out points. I would add that the slow rendering/scrolling is likely to be a hardware issue.After getting my N95, I have almost stopped using the N800.KLnoreply@blogger.com